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« on: February 28, 2011, 05,10:55 AM » |
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I have asked this before and had very little response. But I would like to ask it again and hopefully get some replies.. Have you heard of, or used, or considered using an automatic clutch? In particular the Rekluse clutch. There are several options from them. http://www.rekluse.com/If I were to supply a Z-start Pro auto clutch to a club member would you like to try it out? There are a number of reasons for me wanting to try this, of which I cant explain fully right now. |
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Stewart
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Willbar
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« Reply #1 on: February 28, 2011, 05,25:14 AM » |
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I will give it a go if you want a ginny pig Stew. Will
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« Reply #2 on: February 28, 2011, 05,40:03 AM » |
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Part of being a ginny pig, would involve letting other club members ride your bike to experience the product..
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« Reply #3 on: February 28, 2011, 06,25:16 AM » |
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Stew. Ive riden a KTM300 with Rekluse clutch and found it on the technical tracks to the grestest thing ever! When you popped up over something without enough momentum the bike sat and idled instead of stalling, which was great for saving energy. And not having to juggle the clutch in the tight stuff was also cool. The three things i hated about it was the feeling of no engine braking at all. A big part of which was the fact of it being a two stroke (live off 4stroke engine braking) and the way it made the front end feel. Sorry that was the KTM. All in all i liked it, but didnt like its price! It would really suit the riding i do which it 80% tight and very technical.
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« Reply #4 on: February 28, 2011, 07,38:51 AM » |
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Part of being a ginny pig, would involve letting other club members ride your bike to experience the product..
That would not be a problem as long as they respect the power of the 540 |
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« Reply #5 on: February 28, 2011, 07,40:58 AM » |
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We've got so many Yamaha WR450s or Honda CRF450 in the club you should send one of them , then if one hates it we could put in some one elses bike. Just a thought.
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« Reply #6 on: February 28, 2011, 08,36:42 AM » |
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Part of being a ginny pig, would involve letting other club members ride your bike to experience the product..
That would not be a problem as long as they respect the power of the 540 540 "Small Bore"!!! I'm up for a good Bike Thrashing. |
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« Reply #7 on: February 28, 2011, 08,41:52 AM » |
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Tested a newish 450 Berg with one and loved it until I went down the first real steep hill. It reminded of my AE430 - engine braking slowing down to a speed where the clutch disengages and off you go. It happens because the centrifugal forces holding the clutch engaged become too low when the RPM of the clutch drops. You can re-ingage the clutch by blipping the throttle if you are brave enough.
The other nice surprise was stopping on a steep climb and stalling the bike in gear so you can park it to help somebody, it does'nt work because with the engine stopped there is no clutch engagement so it's instant reverse.
But on tight technical stuff it was great once you got used to it, just forget about the clutch lever and hold on, impossible to stall even when stopping in any gear, you can also start the bike in gear without using the clutch.
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SEX - It's OK, but nothing like the real thing!!
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« Reply #8 on: February 28, 2011, 08,45:07 AM » |
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Part of being a ginny pig, would involve letting other club members ride your bike to experience the product..
That would not be a problem as long as they respect the power of the 540 540 "Small Bore"!!! I'm up for a good Bike Thrashing. Thats what your wife told me, your always up for a good thrashing  |
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« Reply #9 on: February 28, 2011, 08,54:26 AM » |
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Tested a newish 450 Berg with one and loved it until I went down the first real steep hill. It reminded of my AE430 - engine braking slowing down to a speed where the clutch disengages and off you go. It happens because the centrifugal forces holding the clutch engaged become too low when the RPM of the clutch drops. You can re-ingage the clutch by blipping the throttle if you are brave enough.
The other nice surprise was stopping on a steep climb and stalling the bike in gear so you can park it to help somebody, it does'nt work because with the engine stopped there is no clutch engagement so it's instant reverse.
But on tight technical stuff it was great once you got used to it, just forget about the clutch lever and hold on, impossible to stall even when stopping in any gear, you can also start the bike in gear without using the clutch.
But there's nothing like Clutch control, especially when it comes to Clutched Mono's Ken. Next thing we'll have Down Hill Control and Hill Hold Control followed by Cruise Control and anti slide. |
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« Reply #10 on: February 28, 2011, 09,19:11 AM » |
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...and cup holders!  |
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« Reply #11 on: February 28, 2011, 10,26:40 AM » |
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...and cup holders! don't forget the tow pack!! |
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« Reply #12 on: February 28, 2011, 11,15:40 AM » |
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A mate (yes I have some) rides an FE570 with Rekluse and a Clake, he quite likes it. It gives him no stall, clutch control and a LH rear brake lever.
I have thought about it but with my bikes it really does over capitalise them.
So if you want a WR450F test mule let me know.
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OZinUS
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« Reply #13 on: February 28, 2011, 02,01:00 PM » |
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As with anything "different" there are sometimes trade-offs.
You will still have some engine braking until the RPM drops below the preset threshold, near idle speed. Another thing is you cant "bump" start the bike.. But never having a stalling issue is a very good thing. In technical situations and difficult hillclimbs they are magical...
The EXP core clutch, works just like a normal clutch, except at idle speed only it will be disengaged. No stall, but you ride it like a normal clutch bike..
One of the issues I see in Australia is the cost...........
Keep the talk going, I am listening to everybodies input.
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« Reply #14 on: March 01, 2011, 12,53:46 AM » |
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I also rode the FE450 that Ken borrowed which had the Recluse.
I didnt like the lack of engine braking which I think is too much of a tradeoff to avoiding a stall here and there on a hill.
A Recluse wont get you up a hill, but engine braking will get you down.
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