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Had slight mishap,young Dane broke his leg.
 I spoke to his girl friend this morning, he is in Alfred hospital with a clean brake to his femur.
 It has been pinned and we all hope for a speedy recovery.
 Many thanks to all who assisted in his evacuation, a full ride report to come.

Thanks Jeff

I'm anxious to read the report Jeff, probably like the other 18 who were on the ride...Nothing worse than seeing a rider go down and hurt themselves. Big high 5 to all who helped. Just a few pic's from the day.

I've never ridden that area before but love it all the same..

Lefty.

PS. One of the last pic's is looking into the bush and trees, from the track we were riding on, if you look close enough you can see a fallen light colored tree in the foreground (Dane cleared that) look over the tree in the middle of the pic you will see other riders ! That is where he ended up. My estimate was 36 meters. Quite a good superman stunt I thought... Cheers.     

Where did it happen ?

GEE guys sounds like it was an EPIC day. MASSIVELY HUGEST THANKYOU EVER TO JEFF AND CO FOR TAKING ON MY RIDE and sorry to hear of broken legs and long nights.i hope Dane has a speedy recovery / Seano :'(

Well that was a cracker ride,there were some funny moments james attempting a superman with a whip,he didnt pull it off. good pace ace tracks top blokes.poor dane thought a lot of bad stuff was going on but he took it well.

it happened on mcguire track near selma track and it was kind of lucky stan come off breaking his hand just where and right before dane broke his leg we wouldnt have found him before dark caues you couldnt see him from the track and there were no skid marks.

by the time jeff got danes bike stans bike and stan back to the pub we got home at 1:30am.
rawson pub had the best parma and beer

Had the same thing happen on a ride I was involved with in 2006 on McGuires about 300m west of the Selma Tk intersection. Fast rideline tk and someone hit a tree. It's also not far from where Phil Randall came off last year.

Thanks heaps for leading Jeff, there was a bit of every sort of terrain ............ rocky & steep , greasy & steep, flowing trails & plenty of water crossings.

Hope your recovery is quick Dane, your mates were telling us your due to get married in a couple of weeks.....

Bravest man on the ride award goes to Jeff who spoke to your wife to be !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Did I read correctly that Stan also had a crash & broke a wrist ?   

yep stans plastered up too

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Looks pretty late in the day, what time did it happen ?

it happened at about 3 by the time the chopper got there and got him out it was about 5:30-6. we got back to the cars at about 7:30

Good work to all those involved.

This kind of incident highlights 2 things:

1. Our TAC system works very well for us, and
2. Riding with AMTRA means there will ALWAYS be someone there when the sh1t hits the fan.

Good job boy's!!! Never a good way to have a day end, but always nice to know that our Amtra mates will see use through to the end. Hope Dan is on the mend quickly.
Al

What a day at Rawson!!

Firstly can I say THANKS to Matt for helping me get my bike going after damaging my radiator and to Jeff for helping with directions so I could make it back to my car.
Secondly, sorry to hear about Dane breaking his leg. All the best for a speedy recovery. I also heard that wasnt the only injury for the day- wishing Stan a speedy recovery too.
Overall the big 24 ks that I rode were great and I look forward to getting out on the track again soon.
Cheers Adam  :)

Just a quick note from Jeff's long suffering wife  :) He is working on his ride report but unfortunatley you can't rush a master (typing is not his strong point). I'll keep nagging him so he should have it done soon. :-\

His two index fingers will be working overtime !!!

hiya all,  what a ride!, this was my first ride with amtra, and will certainly not be my last, right from the start I knew this was going to be a fun day, yes it didn't end the way that anyone expected it would, but unfortunately it is the nature of the beast, that when things go wrong, they generally go really wrong. my best wishes to Dane for a speedy recovery and really do hope to see you out n about in the future, and also the same for Stan, zip ties wont fix this one, get better soon both of you. Many thanks for the help in dewatering my "berg", and then the bloody annoying engine stoppages there-after.  i must apologise for not mentioning you all by name as the offers of help were overwhelming that you have slipped my mind for now. once again many thanks  for a great day  .     ;D

johnny i will never forget your berg floating away,and i cant wait to see the footage.

they must be lighter than water

Well what a ride a BIG thanks to everyone who helped out i was very impressed with how we all handled the days events.We had our first dewatering about 250m into the ride which the tail man and i had the privilege of helping with this seemed to set the trend for the day i think i saw this particular husquavarna at a couple of water crossings we had five drownings all up and Zeb was no where to be seen.Poor old Frankie went to step of his bike to walk it through when he lost his footing and went deep sea fishing bike included i think he should of taken his chance riding it he might of been dryer.Even with all this we were traveling quite well great pace most of the day except the poor yamaha riders who seemed to get stuck on the hills and those all show KTMS some stuck some broken ha ha!!!I managed to repair the broken kato so adam could at least get back to the cars and call it a day at lunch time. Wish at this point i joined him as my day was to get fairly long.Leaving the lunch point we had two options up the 70 degree climb or ride around the hill.With my skills being up there with or most improved (seano)i gave it a go with jarrod not far behind both making it to the top where we regrouped and headed of.We had a regoup after a river crossing where we had a few problems james on his (red yamaha) came a cropper doing a one handed superman after making it through the river very amusing for us who like to watch!! Then we had a drowned Berg also amusing and poor old Frankie and his kato .After about an hour we were on our way again we travelled around 10 meters when i came across a great sloppy clay pit after jumping across thinking hope i dont land in that s##@ made it to the top with ease to find a small handfull of mates there i took    the corner and waited and waited slowly the rest of the group emerged one by one all coverd in clay.They told me the poor bloke on the berg still was having trouble we blew out his fuel injection conection this got him going again but he did have dramas after that.We then rode along this grouse ridge track that went for ever i would say around twenty or so k's i was at a corner when jarrod came and told me someones had a accident and broken there leg so leaving him on the corner i went on to get the lead rider there was one more corner then luckily jeff was on his way back so we left the rest of the group there and headed back with rob as he had his epirb and gps with him.When we arrived at the crash we found Dane not very happy and in heaps of pain so we set of the epirb to get help as there was no way we could move him.So we waited trying to keep him warm and comfortable i relised he had NO sense of humor at this stage better stop mucking around (that dont happen often).Around three hours later he was choppered out leaving 8 of us to ride out in the dark thank god for that gps around a hour or so later we where nearly out only one more obstacle a huge locked gate james posted his red yamaha through the fencf which looked way to hard so we decided to lift them over the gate the first 5 wernt to bad then they seemed to get really heavy (was everyone lifting???) we arrived at the cars around 7.30   

As others have said, awesome day, as usual the first few km, I suffer with arm pump, I've now removed the bar risers, so I'll see how it goes this weekend, anyway all was good until the first river crossing, I couldn't see the bottom properly looked a bit deep & flowing well,most of the fellas were on the other side looking at me,I thought I would play it safe & walk the bike across, yeah I got wet feet & the water was freezing,walking the bike across was a bad move, because I had wet & cold feet for the rest of the day. I enjoyed the tracks & hill climbs, I had to have 3 goes on one of them, all good fun.............Will I didn't even swear ;D
As Mat said I drowned the bike & me in one of the river crossing, Mat & James came to the rescue again & DE watered the bike thanks heaps fellas, a thank you also goes out to Jarrod for his help as well.I got ahead of myself, before we got to the river we passed about 6 4x4's they were quite happy to watch what was going on, When the bike was running again, we were faced with a very slippery clay hill, sitting at the bottom watching a few of us trying to get up & still, some were still on the hill trying to get up, not sure if they were swearing or not I didn't hear anything ;D
normally I wait until the hill is clear before I have a go, I couldn't wait any longer, I was ready to go, I hooked 2 gear with the motor running happy & a bit of clutch work, I went up the left side as I got near the top I cut across to the right hand side & made it to the top, yeah that felt good ;D
The ride flowed very well, by this time I was really feeling one with the bike, then I noticed a bit of white stuff, I thought could it be snow, then a bit further on more white stuff, yeah it's bloody snow alright, I hope it doesn't get to thick, I don't like riding in the snow, I've done it once, I don't want to ever do it again, anyway we had a regroup there & then we found out that someone had broken their leg, we then headed back to the next regroup, Mat & Jeff & someone else not sure who went back, we were told to stay there & wait, so a fire was in oder I tel ya that fire was awesome the first time I was dry all day, when Jeff got back,we then headed back to the cars,the last few k's were in the dark, I felt guilty not staying at the cars, it was cold & dark & not knowing how long it would be before the rest of the group would be back at the cars,nothing I could do anyway, so decided to go home with the heater full on.
Thanks Jeff for leading a great ride & Mark for doing the sweep, & all you other fellas for a great day.
I hope you heal up quick Dane & stan, look forward to see ya's back on a ride again.

Wow where do you start.

Before I get into the nitty gritty of the ride, please indulge me a moment to express the faith we have in the way people are prepared to help out a total stranger at a moment’s notice. From the 4WD blokes who stopped what they were doing to assist with Dane, to the campers who were quiet happy to give us fuel for a couple thirsty bikes (we did insist they take some cash) not to mention our guys who where only too happy to stay out in the bush knowing they would be riding back in the cold and dark. Thank you one and all.
On the lighter side there were a couple of truly dedicated souls who were forced to sit in the Stockyard hotel and endure such hardships as Parmas and  beer while watching the football on the big screen TV as they waited for the bike retrieval team to return. They’re probably still in therapy for such a traumatic experience.

On to the ride. I was handed the ride leader duties at the club meeting last Wednesday night. I thought “ok that’s not such a problem”. And then Sean’s original post for this ride mysteriously disappeared from the web site. I should have recognised the warning signs and stayed home.

Rawson is an aboriginal word meaning “God’s gift to trailriders”, so how could I stay home! As the sky lit up with a bright orange sun rise we made the pilgrimage to the holy land. There were 19 starters that gathered at the bottom of Beardmores trk in the shadow of the Thompson Dam. Some had been here before, some for the first time. 200 hundred meters in is the first chance to get your feet wet as we crossed the Thompson River, this long crossing around 30 odd mts wide but not that deep. Most crossed with nothing more than wet feet, except for Stan, a first timer to this area, who was baptised in the cool clean waters. As this a Victorian river and not a Tasmanian river his poo box YZ250 two banger still came out a poo box YZ, only water logged ( Stan don’t believe everything you see on TV). The first of many jobs for tailman Mark to deal with. At the top of Beardmores you cross the road to a Little Link trk , not that steep but always slippery that caught a few napping. Then on to CMF trk down to the Abberfeldy River. I had no idea how much water was flowing in this river as it rises and falls quickly. On sighting the river it was discoloured and up a bit, so in I went. it had a strong flow but only about wheel deep. Just as you were about to come out the other side there was a hole that plunged another 150/200ml that was a bit of a surprise. One by one the rest of the crew crossed, a couple nervous moments but all made it no problems. That was a relief.

From there the trk changes name and is now North East trk and climbs very quickly, the last 200mts is in poor condition and resembles the Devils rock garden. There was plenty of traction but fairly technical, I thing Mark had some more work there. From there a left turn into Dream Creek trk. I love this trk, it has long fast and steep downhill and a mandatory river crossing. If you look at Lefty’s photos the second row is of this crossing. The trick is to ride right next to the log, not that easy when there’s a half metre drop to the left. No chance of dry feet here, all made it across but a few close calls. An easy climb from here to the road, then into Merringtons trk , a couple hundred metres later turn into Pheasant trk . Pheasant trk has the best of both worlds, steep clay down one side ,river crossing (yes back in that bloody river again) and a long rocky climb out the other side.

Flats trk was the next challenge. Don’t be fooled by the name, it’s anything but flat. The first 30 odd metres there is a near vertical rock face to go down . Once you commit you can only hope your sill upright when you hit the bottom, and then it’s all downhill till you hit Donnelleys Creek trk. We had a regroup at this point which took some time. Some of the guys lit a fire at this point as we waited for tailman Mark to arrive. Turns out Adam had a mishap on the climb out of Pheasant trk and damaged a radiator on the KTM. Matt was the man on spot to mend this, using all his McGuiver skills he fashioned a repair using only the foreskin of a Yak! that he had in his backpack WTF! . Adam wasn’t convinced that this would hold so opted for the quickest way back to the car. Lunch was held at Jorgenson hut while I escorted Adam back to a spot where I was confident he would not get lost. At lunch I asked Mark if he wanted to swap the tailman job, but he was happy with pace and getting plenty of entertainment so he stuck with it.

We hit Jorgenson trk after lunch then into Toombon trk and a left into Eaton trk. It was at the river at Eaton that things stated to go pear shaped (that’s the next row of Leftys photos). James put on a real show for the boys as his unusual departure from the creek was a big hit. John drowned the big Berg here, but Frank stole the show. You have to feel sorry for Frank. He tried to do the right thing and walk the bike across, but as he dismounted he and the bike landed in the drink Doh! Once all bikes where dried out It was straight into a steep clay climb to Comet trk, turn left, oops should have turned right.  Quick check of the map and we were back on trk up to the town of  Abberfelde. Fairly high up here and bloody freezing, had to feel for Frank. Heading north out of town we turned into Pluto trk to pick up the end of McGuire’s trk. It was on this trk that young Dane came unstuck.

The front half of group was way up the other end when Matt came thru with the news. I rode back with Matt to see what could be done. Mark had left by then to get higher ground to make phone contact. The other guys were making Dane as comfy as they could and getting a fire going. Someone had an emergency response beacon with them so we activated that.  As it was getting late I thought it was best to get the front crew back to cars and return with my 4wd. When I returned to the front group we meet some 4wds who also helped with phone contact  and then went the site to help where they could. The return to the cars was no easy task as I broke my throttle cable half way back and then bought fuel from some campers at Jorgenson hut to make sure we all made it back.

As you probably know Dane was Air lifted out with a broken leg. I meet the other half of the crew on their way back in the dark. I dished out some fuel I had in the car to make sure they made it back and arranged to meet them at the pub after I collected Stan as well as the two bikes from the Bush. Had to go out a different way with the bikes on and missed a turn, ending up miles away. Collected Stan around 7.30pm got back to pub I think around 10pm.

I would like to personally thank, well, pretty everyone for their assistance with Dane, I hope for a speedy recovery mate. Thanks Mark for being tailman all day & night.  Till we meet again in trialriders’ garden of Eden.
Jeff

Great report and a great effort fella's

Great report Jeff!!! Lots of words in there about the stuff we tend to take for granted about riding with the club. And things we should be greatful for as members. Sounds like an eventful day out, as this sport can sometimes deliver. And a day that will live for a long time in the stories it will bring. Good job by yourself and the rest of the crew. Mark is one of those blokes who always puts his hand up for tailman duties and never gets his true rewards for the effort he puts in.
Al

Two drownings in one day Frankie that sucks , i feel for ya mate i know how it feels ....  Just dont let it get into ya head other wise it will be every river and creek you come accross trust me i know  >:(

Great job to everyone involved! Not good hearing about the rider down, hope he makes a good quick recovery!

Great ride report Jeff.
Sounds like an eventful day. Glad to hear that everyone stayed to help Dane. Amtra is a professionally run club and it can be seen in the way situations like this are handled. All riders are accounted for and no one is left behind which is reassuring. Its a credit to you all.
Adam

Mate I don't know where ya read that, I only drowned the bike once, it won't get into my head, I've drowned a bike many times over the years, I'm sure this one won't be the last one ;D

Hey mate must have had the wrong glasses on , once twice still sucks especially early in the day , apart from the mishaps sounds like rawson is a place to put on the need to ride list > cya soon .

Great reports everyone. A few learning's I took away from the day. Always carry a space blanket which are only a couple of bucks from the camping store, James had one in his backpack which was used to keep Dane warm. Secondly, take your mobile phone with you on the ride, out of all us we only had one phone, fortunately it was linked to Telstra and it worked from high ground. Thirdly carry a lighter. Mark had a lighter so we were able to light a fire to keep warm while talking to the Ambo's. James I reckon you should rethink you career prospects, maybe you should enter the medical profession your patient care was wonderful!

ColinP 

Well written Jeff, made for a great read. And to you James C, I've tried to PM you but am having trouble sending it, looks like the system doesnt reconise me !!!. Just in relation to the blue jacket, I am happy to pick it up or I live at 13 Harbour Drive, Patterson lakes. 97731953 if nobody is home just leave it in the big pot at the front door. Cheers mate.
Stuart.

Does anyone think its a good idea to possibly purchase EPIRB's for the club? the could easily fit into the first aid bags and be carried with the tail rider.
The version i have is the
Brand: GME
Model: MT410 406 MHz PLB
Needs to be a GPS Version!
(From the Emergency Beacon registration website it states:)
GPS- Has an accuracy locator of 120 Meters
Non GPS has an accuracy locator of 5km

there is a section on the registration website for other details, such as to explain that if the club was to purchase the EPIRB's that they are registered to AMTRA and that if an alert was to be set off by the registered beacon that they are to dispatch a ambulance or rescue helicopter immediately as there would be a serious Injury that would been immediate medical assistance.
You can also keep up dated easily as to the particular EPIRB that group has and the riding location where that ride is as to confirm the location as a secondarily measure.

Would be interested in your views, i'm sure i know how Dane's throughts on the matter.

Cheers
Rob

Rob, i see Mat R has it down to disscused at the commitee meeting this month. I must admit one is always in my fourby and travels everywhere with it. However ive never carried it whilst riding or leading a ride. After the reports from Rawson i may change my mind? Still a little unsure if i would trust the one from my fourby in my backpack not to be accendentily set off. Will look into a model with a replaceable battery for the next one as the shelf life of my current unit was to short and is not a through away item.
Al

Interesting topic, who was the guy who had the epirb on the ride. Forget his name but he was carrying everything in his back pack. Congratulations to him. He said his dad bought it for him and have several in his family. Anybody know what they cost and can you reset them. I'm interested in getting one.
Cheers,
Lefty.

Iv'e had some prices through my wifes work on epirbs and let Will know they are going to discuss this with the committee no doubt people will not all agree but for our own peace of mind i think it was very handy where we were and we should have some available if we are going to ride in more remote locations   .We should also look at usable 2 way radios we use them at the high country but why not for our weekly rides if more of us in the club brought them the rides might flow a bit better i would like to no your thoughts.

The modern day ERIRB is a SPOT as it also allows SMS communication during the day over Satellite NOT mobile network.
Has 4 modes 000 send help urgent, send help not urgent, home late some issues and OK, All OK.
Links to Google map tracking and sends GPS co-ordinates with messages.
The Australian base is in Canberra they are widely used by Australian Police and Emergency services.

http://satellitephonehireaustralia.com.au/spotsatellitesales.php

As far as 5W radio's are concerned, yes we are supposed to have two on each ride since AMTRA signed the DSE trail riding code of conduct last year which mandates we will carry them, requests for these are pending ...........
Good luck on this one! There are more opinions here than you can shake a stick at.

Al & Lefty
Well I was the one with the EPIRB,
the GME one that I own is fully water proof and comes with a wetsuit material carry case, there’s no possible way of it being set off as the back of the unit has an aerial curled up and will not be set off until the aerial is fully extended and folded out.

As for the radios, I’m also riding between my mate and i with a water proof UHF, they say they have 15KM radius transmission, but I clearly understand this is not the case in the high country.. But the fact is if more people have them the message can also be carried through the group to the next person that picks up the transmission.

The Price of my EPIRB was around the $480 mark for the GPS positing, but it does not send messages as this other one Brad is talking about, And as for resetting them and cost wise, we sent ours off to somewhere in Canberra and they replaced the whole unit for nothing.
Well worth the expense I think.

Will try and make it to this month’s meeting and bring the stuff I carry with me.
cheers

Anybody know how Dane and Stan are holding up ? Also there were other riders taking photos and video on their iPhones. Any chance you could post some up pls.

Cheers,

Lefty.

i spoke to stan today, he's hand is stuffed its gonna take months to heel. i wanna see the vids too come on ladies put them up

I've got a few vids I took on the day, only got them off the camera last night to have a look at. I've got 1 of Dane being airlifted out and a few of the various river crossings. Unfortunately I missed most of the interesting crossings/drownings.

Not sure how to post up a video but I'll have ago in the next few days.

hey guys, i have got video of the ride, am havig trouble uploading though, really wanted you all to see the submerging of my berg-not!, will keep trying to get it sorted  ;D

I saw this device, spot connect, here in Canada.

Could be an option if anyone wants to keep contact in a remote area.

It allows your smart phone to work as a satelite phone as well as sending emergency SOS with gps location. Looks like its available in Australia. Catch is there is a yearly subscription. I think it might be about $100 US. Big advantage over an epirb is that you can talk to the emergency services and/ or family.

http://www.gizmodo.com.au/2011/01/spot-connect-turns-your-smartphone-into-a-satellite-communicator/

Not much riding here in Canada. I think the -40 deg c in winter has something to do with it.

I'm doing a weeks riding in Alaska in Sept which should be interesting.

Onion

Johnny,
Load it on youtube and link it to the web site post.

Otherwise email it to me and I will do it for you.

bdm30@bigpond.net.au


Brad

Ok I've uploaded 1 vid to youtube, this is Grandpa (Steve) crossing 1 of the rivers. Not sure how to embed the vid so I'll just post the url. Will try to upload some more tonight.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oDnCGTjBdsA

Works just fine where is the rest Trev?

Here's a couple more, my broadband connection is pretty slow so its taking forever to upload.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QlTANoRyf_

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IcFw13WQWxE

another 1

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_XQLffRHUso

Well done Trev, keep them comm'n !!!

Here's a couple for you Lefty  ;D

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dKfOOKlxB-w

http://www.youtube.com/user/trevb2308#p/a/u/1/1N5cmDC5lE8

Amtra Members,

My names Dane, Im the lad that broke his leg on the Epic day that was the Rawson ride.

I thought I'd write in and give an update on my progress/rehab and mostly, to thank the professionalism of the organisation, and those that stayed with me whilst I was on the dirt.

Firstly, to the gents that stayed next to me while I awaited the helicopter, thankyou so much. Your support was most appreciated. My state of mind was far from settled, and having good company made all the difference.

To the gents who toiled long into the evening to retrieve my beloved KTM, again, thankyou. I was sure it was going to live a long life buried in gum tree leaves in the forest forever. Your hard work is greatly appreciated.

To the gentleman that had the EPIRB beacon, my family thanks you for your preparedness. After reviewing my injuries on arrival at the Alfred Hospital, the surgical team advised I didnt have much blood left to lose internally, and the time saved by having that EPIRB was very important.

Now for the injury list.

Right Leg
Broken Femur - 3 inches above knee joint, clean break. Titanium Rod inserted from hip joint to knee. Broken knee cap, bone chips throughout knee joint.

Left Leg
bruising of knee joint, torn thigh muscle from knee joint.

Groin - severely bruised gentlemans parts and a tear in the bag that required treatment.

I spent 1 week in the alfred hospital, and went home on the 6th of August after 4 bouts of surgery, 4 blood transfusions, and a whole lotta worrying my fiance. The team at the Alfred are the F1 Team of surgery/nursing. Never have I felt more confident in a team's plan and implementation. They are to be commended for that fact I was up walking on crutches 4 days after the accident.

As most of you would have heard, Im getting married in 6 weeks. My fiance wishes to thank all of you for doing what you did to pull me through. I can't thank all of you enough.


If this message is full on, please excuse the depth, however the accident has really aligned some priorities for me and I wanted to say my thanks.


I've got a long road of rehab in front of me, and a long time before i see a motorbike/pushbike of any sort.

Again, thankyou all so much.


Cheers

Dane

Hi Dane
 Glad to hear your on the road to recovery,I cringed at your list of injuries.

Your report makes a good ad for EPIRBs.

Hope to see you on the trails real soon.

Regards Jeff

G,day Dane
Seano here ,(this was my ride ,but unfortunately my bike broke)Great to hear your getting there and hope your recovery is speedy ,its never good to hear about these type of offs in the bush.All the best for the wedding and good luck for you and your futer wifes life together and maybe I can catch you on the trails in the near future.


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am really glad to hear that things are on the up for you dane,  all the best for the upcoming wedding., takecare and hopefully will see you out n about again. 

Good on ya Dane, I don't want to dwell on the matter, but, can you remember anything leading up to the stack. I checked your tire marks and it looked like the rear wheel gripped and then rebounded off a hidden rock on the right hand side of the main track ?

Cheers,
Lefty.