Some words from the Woods Point Police

Ian Robinson

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« on: December 01, 2010, 09,15:55 AM »

Some interesting reading from Kenneth Dwight.
Be sure to read the bit about the TAC.

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Re: Some words from the Woods Point Police

« Reply #1 on: December 01, 2010, 11,58:25 PM »

TAC is a no blame system, have a crash the bills get paid, someone need to explain that to Mr Plod Huh


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Re: Some words from the Woods Point Police

« Reply #2 on: December 02, 2010, 02,44:27 AM »

Yeah: but my reading of the letter is that he thinks there will be a change? TAC may cover the bills but the careless drive charge would/ could apply. Therefore if brought before a court and found guilty an impost of costs / possibly TAC payments may/ could apply?

At least thats my interpretation of the letter. So if the police think that its(carelss driving offence) if you go there & cant ride (to his standards) or the weather is bad (again to his standards) or the track conditions are bad (again his standards) Then you would be charged

Or given these indicators it would be illegal even if you didnt have an accident! You would then possibly be breaking the law/s beacuse of road condition, ability, weather? Huh

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Now a very simple person just like me, would say why cant we ride a registered vehicle while licensed on a public road without fear of conviction if I have an accident and injure myself? I concure that the SES, emergency services & police are our un sung heros in times of trouble. But I wouldnt expect anyone to lay their life on the line for me to save me.

However that is not to say that the police in these areas dont see plenty of stupid things done by fools! I guess frustration in saving fools would see me also trying to legislate against people doing stupid stuff if I were in their shoes.

BUT: you cant legislate brains into anyone.

I would say that if a legislation were to pass that does encomapss the charges as laid out here it would be bloody sad day at best.

I hope I'm wrong in my assumption!


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Re: Some words from the Woods Point Police

« Reply #3 on: December 02, 2010, 03,31:26 AM »

They may charge you but you still have to be found guilty in a court of law.


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Re: Some words from the Woods Point Police

« Reply #4 on: December 02, 2010, 06,48:44 AM »

Hahaha the law is an ass & if you believe there is justice in a court room you are mistaken. Its better not to have cursory law that can see you defending yourself.


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Re: Some words from the Woods Point Police

« Reply #5 on: December 07, 2010, 09,49:14 AM »

My interperitation is that if, for example, I went for a ride during a thunderstorm (or without checking the forecast, and there was a storm), which caused me to come to greif, I might be held accountable for my actions (or lack of).
I can see why the police would like to see such a system in place, after all, just imagine how much of their time is spent helping people who have put themselves in danger though their own stupidity. ie 4wd's or bikes crossing flooded rivers.
By the same token, if I'm riding responsibly, and happen to have an accident, could this system then put me at fault for attempting terrain I was not capable of? Or for exeeding my capabilities in general?

Lets not forget this is a letter written by an individual police officer, rather than an official document relating to the possible changes


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