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OK all you gun riders, who can give us less experienced guys some tips on lasting the distance and nobody better say take a viagra 20 min before you ride  ;D

How do you get through a 200k ride or even a very demanding shorter ride and go the distance , how do you converve energy their has to be more to it that just sitting down when you can .... ???

Be hydrated.. Several days before a big ride, start doubling your water intake. If you are not peeing clear fluid then you need more water. Keep alcohol to a minimum. Having a hangover on the ride day will not be fun.
Being fit helps too, the more time you spend in the saddle the easier it will get.. I actually try to stand a lot if possible, my knees start to ache when sitting while riding after a while.
Good carb meal the night before, pasta or something like that.

The first step for you Zeb is to stop smoking and let your lungs recover. Until then you will always struggle.

What Stewart said, plus pace your self, meaning don't race your self & wear your self out, I did that when I did a 7 day high country ride 2 years ago, the shortest day was 190 km & some was 210 km a day, on the last day some of the younger blokes were riding much slower then the first day, for me I was just coming good ;D

Oh, does that mean I'm an expert rider ;D 

Yep take that on the chin ... Already under way with that.

Nope not an expert just a legend two banger rider even though you ride it like a 4 banger.   ;D

While we are no the subject of bangers  ... Who reckons that their is any truth in the schools of thought that riding a 2T burns more energy than 4T over the course of a longer ride.

Zeb i wonder were that question may have started? Smoking is a given and so are all the others. My opinion is ride at 80% all day and only turn on the charm when something presents itself. Riding with in your ablity helps remove time spent tasting the dirt! And the most energy burn't is in picking up a bike that should't have been there in the first place. I have had lots of quick blokes on my rides that are guns in the morning and like making their presents know! Even give me stick about my pace! But by the end of my loop are more like half blocked water pistols as i fly past at the same pace they gave stick for earlier in the day. And hydration always seems to bring people undone. I carry a half frozen bottle of power aid wedged next to camel back bladder. One it keeps the bladder cold through the day, but the look on people's faces as the day ends and your grabing an ice cold drink from you back pack and their on warm drink or empty, gives you a good perk up for the final few trails home. Works for me anyway Al

That's hard to say, I haven't ridden the 2 banger on a ride like the 7 day HCR, my thoughts are, a 4 stroke is a little easier power wise, but the lightness of the 2 stroke will save your energy, what I will say is that the 2 stroke is more fun ;D

Go the 2 smokers

More severe weather warnings for sth east suberbs of melbourne just came from a mate at the SES exspecting a further 200mm tonite . Will

That question started in the right place for the right reason as you know ..... On the subject of Smoking I remeber when I told lefty a couple of month ago that i was gunna give up the Fags , he turns around with a smile and says THAT I SHOULD ALSO CONSIDER giving up smoking as well  ;D ;D ;D Onya lefty.

Will take all of that on board stew thanks  , the hyrdation interests me casue I am a profuse sweater and tend to overheat pretty quickly.

Well we better organize a longer ride over a couple of days and find out old mate , what ya reckon ? And this time we wont run ot of fuel .  ::)

Will

Another 200 jeez only just kept the water out of my garage on friday arvo  .....

Buy yourself a Big Banger 4 Stroke, and all you need is to Crank open the throttle and the bike does the rest, just hang on, and ya 200 k's will be like a walk in the Forest!!

Another 200 jeez only just kept the water out of my garage on friday arvo  .....


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I also like to drink a litre of Pedialyte per day coming up to a big ride, Pedialyte is used for sick babies to stop them from dehydrating, it is formulated to be the exact replacement fluids for your body.. Should be able to find this at a chemist or supermarket. I like the unflavoured stuff. The flavoured stuff I find a little sweet. Same with Gatorade or similiar drinks, you can mix them with water to take the sweetness away..
At health food shops you can find a variety of hydration products, premixed and powders. Hammer Nutrition has a lot of good products.  A good cycling shop may carry nutritional supplements. People who road race bicycles are usually big into nutrition and hydration.
Another thing to consider is recovery drinks and food, especially if you have another day of riding or you just want feel better the day after..

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Well we better organize a longer ride over a couple of days and find out old mate , what ya reckon ? And this time we wont run ot of fuel .  ::)
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Ah those dam cholesterol tablets work well,my memory is coming back, it come & goes ;D years & years ago we never had camelbaks, we had to rely on river crossings or do without.So HTFU ;D
To do a big ride or a hard one, it's got a lot to do with how you think.After the first day, don't think to much about the hard stuff you did that day, when you start thinking poo I'm tired, how am I going to do it all again to-morrow, then you'll be doing it tuff, think about the highlights of the day & keep positive,the right attitude is whats it's all about,as I get older I'm loosing that right attitude, I used to love big hills the bigger the better, Now I think to much about the danger, must be an old age thing ;D

Zeb if we ever do a big ride, we will have to invite Serge & brad along, we will need a couple of fuel tankers along ;D

Happy to be of service!

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Me to $5 per litre

Well we better organize a longer ride over a couple of days and find out old mate , what ya reckon ? And this time we wont run ot of fuel .  ::)
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Ah those dam cholesterol tablets work well,my memory is coming back, it come & goes ;D years & years ago we never had camelbaks, we had to rely on river crossings or do without.So HTFU ;D
To do a big ride or a hard one, it's got a lot to do with how you think.After the first day, don't think to much about the hard stuff you did that day, when you start thinking poo I'm tired, how am I going to do it all again to-morrow, then you'll be doing it tuff, think about the highlights of the day & keep positive,the right attitude is whats it's all about,as I get older I'm loosing that right attitude, I used to love big hills the bigger the better, Now I think to much about the danger, must be an old age thing ;D

Zeb if we ever do a big ride, we will have to invite Serge & brad along, we will need a couple of fuel tankers along ;D
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Hmmmm a long ride , maybe we need to add a 2 banger duro to the calendar , then again that wont work cause all the tankers arnt 2 bangers ....  Maybe we need to call it 2 bangers + 2 duro ( two 4T's only ) nah forget it that would be non club orientated . Wonder how many 2T's their are in the club compared to 4T's .....  10 : 1    ???

Also take some Banana's with you, eat them about 1.00pm and you will ride like there is no tomorrow, also stops Cramping in your legs " Potassium"

Back to the original question.

I'm with Ozinus, pre-hydration is crucial and correct food before and during a ride is very important.

Pasta and Veg the day before for storage of energy, and no less than 3 hours before the ride start drinking water and aim to drink 3 litres gradually before the ride.

Some Gatorade or similar 50/50 with water on the ride and then Gatorade for a while after the ride.

Another thing is to warm down after the ride with some walking and stretching, I thought this was rubbish until I started doing it, I was amazed how the 'day after' muscle soreness was reduced, especially in the legs.

Just stand up be smooth on throttle keep drinking and k's roll by

G'day Zeb

You should be in the a4de..... it's on this week  !!!!

a bit over 200klm /day.

Having some good fitness/ hydration etc as allready mentioned is a given, but don't forget the mental side of things.

If you can ride with blokes or blokettes of a similar pace it is much easier & a 200klm day will fly by.

BUT.... I've found that if your pushing yourself all the time in a vain attempt to try & keep up with much faster riders, your brain gets fried, you make dumb mistakes, your confidence gets shot to ribbons, you end up riding ridiculously slow, & it can become really ,really hard.