David
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« on: May 28, 2012, 12,35:12 AM » |
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To Clake or not to Clake.......what do people think?
Cheers David
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AL
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« Reply #1 on: May 28, 2012, 03,55:02 AM » |
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Very hard question David! Ive ridden around 6 different bikes with them over the last couple of years and have either hated them, or could maybe be get use to it, dependant on the way the person has set it up. I think they take a bit to get set up right and can be quite helpful in some cases. I never ridden one and gone s*%t this is great though and know two of the ones ive ridden have since sold them and are not looking at replacing them. Best bet would to be try and ride a bike with one as they are a lot of money to outlay and not like. Al
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Mat R
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« Reply #2 on: May 28, 2012, 04,21:08 AM » |
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I really like the idea of it, as it matches up with the mountain bike brake setup. I am not light on the toes, as most would know, so tend to get poor results using the rear brake with my foot. As a result I rely heavily on the front which is not always the best option.
There are lots of choices you can make with the setup of the Clake, best bet is to chat with Owen at Clake before getting one.
To Clake is high on my list of bike mods, it just remains which bike at the moment.
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When is the next ride?
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David
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« Reply #3 on: May 28, 2012, 06,20:04 AM » |
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Thanks - I was talking to Owen at the Trials Championships at Maldon as he had a stand there, hence the question on here. Al he indicated it would assist me on the downhills... Also found the attatched if any interest to others http://www.dirtbikeworld.net/forum/showthread.php?t=91381&highlight=clakeConfused me even more!
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Peter r
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« Reply #4 on: May 28, 2012, 06,25:26 AM » |
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I spoke to Owen at the HCR and discussed what i would like the Clake to do for me ( Clutched Mono's, Blipping the Clutch for Log hopping.)He said it works quite well for my requirements, so i took a ride on the Beta 350 that he had there, and i was impressed with how much better you can control the Bike. So i'm gunna give it a Trial.
I'm getting mine installed next week "Hopefully", and will write a full report on how good or how bad it is, once i get it set up properly.
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Clarky
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« Reply #5 on: May 28, 2012, 08,00:14 AM » |
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I am not going to say they are good or bad HOWEVER I had one on my bike for 2/3 rides only. Nearly wipped out Nathan when he was a cornerman at a T junction as I went for for the foot brake (nothing there) then the brake/clutch thingy - by then overshot T junction straight ahead. It will take a while to get used to it and be natural. Set it critical and there is heaps of adjustments. Like anything once you are used to it then that is the way it is. I figured there are so many great riders out there that ride unreal without it so why throw another problem (maybe solution ?) into the mix.
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Peter r
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« Reply #6 on: May 28, 2012, 10,34:28 AM » |
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I am not going to say they are good or bad HOWEVER I had one on my bike for 2/3 rides only. Nearly wipped out Nathan when he was a cornerman at a T junction as I went for for the foot brake (nothing there) then the brake/clutch thingy - by then overshot T junction straight ahead. It will take a while to get used to it and be natural. Set it critical and there is heaps of adjustments. Like anything once you are used to it then that is the way it is. I figured there are so many great riders out there that ride unreal without it so why throw another problem (maybe solution ?) into the mix.
I'm keeping the Rear Foot Brake, for emergency use !!Owen recommends i keep it, cos when the Sh!t hits the Fan, your Brain automaticly goes for the Foot Brake.
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« Reply #7 on: May 28, 2012, 10,59:55 AM » |
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Clake is good...
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AL
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« Reply #8 on: May 28, 2012, 11,24:06 AM » |
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David if your heavy foot like Mat says he is, then the clake will give you a lot better feel for the rear brake. And has the benafit that before it stalls the rear wheel the clutch is engaged. Im someone who has only just getting out of the bad habbit of not using the rear brake at all and relying soaly on front brake and engine braking. It been a year and a half to retrain myself and get my head around the rear brake. When ever im on an easy ride i go the other way and just practice, practice, practice using the rear brake. I am only now starting realise how much my bad habbit was hurting my riding and pace. The clake is also very good for hill starts, as you can keep both feet on the ground as you bring up the revs and the clutch to the friction point. Which then alows the clutch and rear brake fade out together. My personal opinion is, i would get all your skills in order first and master them. Then get a clake to enhance or improve your riding. Also i think you need to be at home on the new bike before you make big changes so that you know what your looking for extra from it. Just my thoughts David, happy to have more of a chat with you at John's in a few weeks, Al
Ps. Ive found for me, mastering clutch control from technical riding is the biggest help for up hills. And getting your slow riding and body postion right the biggest help for the down hills.
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David
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« Reply #9 on: May 28, 2012, 10,54:54 PM » |
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Thanks All and yes Al happy to talk more at John's in a few weeks.
Cheers David
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james c
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« Reply #10 on: June 02, 2012, 12,25:23 PM » |
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Clake is good... thank for the detailed info Rossi
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Dirtpilot72
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« Reply #11 on: June 02, 2012, 01,48:48 PM » |
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Just another gimmick. A bit like recluse, pivot pegs, steg pegs, aftermarket pipes. Spend the money on rider training, suspension set up, tyres or just buy a Sherco.
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« Reply #12 on: June 02, 2012, 11,12:50 PM » |
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Just another gimmick. A bit like recluse, pivot pegs, steg pegs, aftermarket pipes. Spend the money on rider training, suspension set up, tyres or just buy a Sherco.
Why, do Sherco's come with all the gimmicks, veggie boy
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Dirtpilot72
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« Reply #13 on: June 03, 2012, 10,17:30 AM » |
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No, they are light and fast stock, no need foe bolt on junk.
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Aaron
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« Reply #14 on: June 03, 2012, 11,24:12 AM » |
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TM's are lighter, better looking and sound better. Clake IS good.
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