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Title: The new Yamaha YZ450 released
Post by: chrism on September 09, 2009, 10,52:29 AM
To the Yamaha brethren and to those who wish they walked amongst us today Yamaha announced the 2010 YZ450. 

It’s the biggest changes since 2006?

In short these are the biggest changes that jumped out at me.

  • They have reversed the engine, air intake in the front, exhaust back.
  • Airbox is where the fuel tank was and a under seat tank
  • New aluminium bi-lateral frame
  • New four valve cylinder head
  • Electronic fuel injection
  • They have angled the cylinder rearwards slights to improve the COG.  Which it the opposite to BMW and Husaberg!
  • And it looks cool.

More info here: http://www.yamaha-motor.com/sport/products/modelhome/209/0/home.aspx (http://www.yamaha-motor.com/sport/products/modelhome/209/0/home.aspx)

(http://www.yamaha-motor.com/assets/content/images/600/10MS_YZ450F_blu_S2_828fd8c5.jpg)



So the question still remains when will it transfer into the WR? 

The 2010 WR450 hasn’t been officially announced but traditionally it will be the following year when it flows onto the WR...  But who knows.


Title: Re: The new Yamaha YZ450 released
Post by: MarcL on September 09, 2009, 11,29:10 AM
Serge, you can now "step-up" to the 450!



In short these are the biggest changes that jumped out at me. ;D ;D ;D



Title: Re: The new Yamaha YZ450 released
Post by: Tim Dykes on September 09, 2009, 11,34:47 AM

It will be interesting to see one in the flesh.

The first problem I can see with a WR is the fuel tank, will it be able to fit a bigger tank and carry a decent load of fuel? ???


Title: Re: The new Yamaha YZ450 released
Post by: chrism on September 09, 2009, 11,54:06 AM
Serge, you can now "step-up" to the 450!



In short these are the biggest changes that jumped out at me. ;D ;D ;D


::)

Only spec's I can compare to are the 2009 YZ.

Funny you mention the height, for those vertically challenged, the bike another 1/2 an inch higher.

But whats half an inch, I spose it's a lot when you don't have it!


Title: Re: The new Yamaha YZ450 released
Post by: sjkermode on September 09, 2009, 10,01:01 PM
Another interesting titbit is that the Crankshaft is actually offset from the Piston so that when it fires all the force is pushed directly downwards rather than having lateral force applied as well.  Be interesting to see if it works.

Also four valve head.  Be interesting to see how the valves go.


Title: Re: The new Yamaha YZ450 released
Post by: Serge C on September 10, 2009, 07,52:19 AM
    • They have reversed the engine, air intake in the front, exhaust back.
    • They have angled the cylinder rearwards slights to improve the COG.  Which it the opposite to BMW and Husaberg!

    I got a theory on this:
    It's all got to do with the Japs finally building a bike for the southern hemisphere.  Just as water runs down a drainpipe in a different direction depending on where you are (geografically), so must an engine spin.  In Japan, the engine must spin clock-wise, but here, it needs to spin counter-clockwise.  If they simply changed the rotation direction, the bike would run backwards, but by turning the engine 180 degs, the engine spins in the right direction for us!  And so as to not confuse the engine, they have swapped the position of air box and fuel tank to trick the motor into thinking it's still in Japan, and facing the correct way!

    Clever people these Japs!
     ;D


    Title: Re: The new Yamaha YZ450 released
    Post by: chrism on September 10, 2009, 08,05:44 AM
    Serge I'm confused....

    Are you standing on the left of the right of your bike, because it goes both clockwise and anti clockwise!


    Title: Re: The new Yamaha YZ450 released
    Post by: Serge C on September 10, 2009, 08,16:22 AM
    Serge I'm confused....

    Are you standing on the left of the right of your bike, because it goes both clockwise and anti clockwise!

    Oh, bugger!

    You saw the flaw in my theory!
     :-[


    Title: Re: The new Yamaha YZ450 released
    Post by: MarcL on September 10, 2009, 08,20:13 PM
    It's easier to just by a HONDA  !


    Title: Re: The new Yamaha YZ450 released
    Post by: Mat R on September 10, 2009, 11,53:39 PM
    It's easier to just walk by a HONDA  !

    You said it, not me. (Well most of it).


    Title: Re: The new Yamaha YZ450 released
    Post by: sjkermode on September 11, 2009, 06,27:34 AM
    It's easier to just walk by a HONDA  !

    It's easier to just pass by, run by, compeletely avoid a HONDA


    Title: Re: The new Yamaha YZ450 released
    Post by: Mat R on September 11, 2009, 07,16:10 AM
    Do we really need to start a Blue here?


    Title: Re: The new Yamaha YZ450 released
    Post by: Serge C on September 11, 2009, 07,42:12 AM
    Do we really need to start a Blue here?

    Yes, because there may be those who are Green with envy, or Red with embarrasment, or Orange cos they like citrus fruit!?!

     ;D


    Title: Re: The new Yamaha YZ450 released
    Post by: Wade E on September 11, 2009, 12,27:43 PM
    Is anyone considering buying a 2010 yamaha?
    Evo


    Title: Re: The new Yamaha YZ450 released
    Post by: chrism on September 11, 2009, 02,56:57 PM
    Yup, but not if it's the same as what I've got.


    Title: Re: The new Yamaha YZ450 released
    Post by: MarcL on September 15, 2009, 12,46:16 AM
    It's easier to just walk by a HONDA  !

    It's easier to just pass by, run by, compeletely avoid a HONDA

    Where's team RED, c'mon Leo I need a hand here !


    Title: Re: The new Yamaha YZ450 released
    Post by: OZinUS on September 18, 2009, 12,57:16 AM
    Another interesting titbit is that the Crankshaft is actually offset from the Piston so that when it fires all the force is pushed directly downwards rather than having lateral force applied as well.  Be interesting to see if it works.

    Also four valve head.  Be interesting to see how the valves go.

    Let me quote MXtuner, "Yup the Honda CRF450 has had an offset crank by 8mm for some years now"


    Title: Re: The new Yamaha YZ450 released
    Post by: Peter r on September 18, 2009, 01,09:40 AM
    Hey Stewart you can become AMTRA's American liaison for the motorbike goodies we import to Aus, and in return we can supply you with Vegimite hahahaha


    Title: Re: The new Yamaha YZ450 released
    Post by: OZinUS on September 18, 2009, 01,35:17 AM
    Hey Stewart you can become AMTRA's American liaison for the motorbike goodies we import to Aus, and in return we can supply you with Vegimite hahahaha

    Well,  one of my good friends does own a Husaberg dealer, hmmm.  ;D

    What about some T-shirts from the races I attend?


    Title: Re: The new Yamaha YZ450 released
    Post by: Peter r on September 18, 2009, 02,59:10 AM
    Hey Stewart you can become AMTRA's American liaison for the motorbike goodies we import to Aus, and in return we can supply you with Vegimite hahahaha

    Well,  one of my good friends does own a Husaberg dealer, hmmm.  ;D

    What about some T-shirts from the races I attend?
    Sounds like a plan, i will send you some details.
    By the way i do ride a 570 Berg (when i can walk)


    Title: Re: The new Yamaha YZ450 released
    Post by: Tayfun on September 18, 2009, 04,47:12 AM
    Hey Stewart you can become AMTRA's American liaison for the motorbike goodies we import to Aus, and in return we can supply you with Vegimite hahahaha

    Well,  one of my good friends does own a Husaberg dealer, hmmm.  ;D

    What about some T-shirts from the races I attend?
    Sounds like a plan, i will send you some details.
    By the way i do ride a 570 Berg

    Shouldn't that read "I wish i could ride my..."


    Title: Re: The new Yamaha YZ450 released
    Post by: Paul Smith on September 18, 2009, 10,19:20 AM
    It's a scam. It's all BS. Nothing to do with reality at all.

    They told me my new Berg would have a revolutionary new motor but seeing as it is always at the below angle the motor is in almost the same position as it used to be.

    I should have known this would happen KTM are a lying bunch of (#$%'s

    (http://i213.photobucket.com/albums/cc132/abbeyard/09Berg/berg45.jpg)


    Title: Re: The new Yamaha YZ450 released
    Post by: Peter r on September 18, 2009, 11,06:45 AM
    Hey Stewart you can become AMTRA's American liaison for the motorbike goodies we import to Aus, and in return we can supply you with Vegimite hahahaha

    Well,  one of my good friends does own a Husaberg dealer, hmmm.  ;D

    What about some T-shirts from the races I attend?
    Sounds like a plan, i will send you some details.
    By the way i do ride a 570 Berg

    Shouldn't that read "I wish i could ride my..."
    Sorry tayfun "I wish i could ride my Berg but i'm unable with a broken leg. How that??


    Title: Re: The new Yamaha YZ450 released
    Post by: MarcL on September 18, 2009, 01,28:44 PM
    I was trying to turn this yammy thread into Honda, now it being taken over by the bergs. How did that happen ??? ???


    Title: Re: The new Yamaha YZ450 released
    Post by: Peter r on September 18, 2009, 10,02:26 PM
    I was trying to turn this yammy thread into Honda, now it being taken over by the bergs. How did that happen ??? ???
    When only the best will do!!!