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« Reply #30 on: February 25, 2013, 11,48:52 AM » |
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PS.With a husky you will need a suspension job ,with the berg you wont,so make sure you add this to the equasion
That's interesting to know, thanks. Why will I need the suspension adjusted on the Husky? And what would that set me back? Any bike will need the suspension set up for its pilot, if you're old fat and slow buy a berg and ride around on it and enjoy picking up 200 kg's when you drop it, or buy a Husky 310 and get a lean mean fighting machine that weighs the same as a 250 two stroke!!! FALSE NATHEN!!!!  Husky TE310 108kg dry and tank holds 8.5 liters KTM 250exc 101.9kg dry and the tank holds 9.5 liters Also fours strokes naturally feel heavier when "throwing them around in tight bush due to the inertia of the motor. In saying all this, have you looked and the fantastic 2stroke enduro range  |
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« Reply #31 on: February 25, 2013, 06,19:53 PM » |
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In saying all this, have you looked and the fantastic 2stroke enduro range In truth I haven't looked at the 2 strokes at all. I don't know why as I always rode 2 strokes back in my MX days, but I was forever tearing it down, replacing this, reboring that, they were a lot more maintenance than the 4 strokes. Has that changed? I also like the idea of pulling up at the pump, filling the bike and riding away rather than worrying about ratios, but I could be convinced to look at 2 strokes if there is a good argument for doing so. And just for the record: Husaberg Dry Weight: 114Kgs (Plus 8.5 liters of fuel) Husky Dry Weight: 108Kgs (Plus 8.5 liters of fuel) Any bike will need the suspension set up for its pilot, if you're old fat and slow buy a berg and ride around on it and enjoy picking up 200 kg's when you drop it, or buy a Husky 310 and get a lean mean fighting machine that weighs the same as a 250 two stroke!!!
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« Reply #32 on: February 25, 2013, 06,37:02 PM » |
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PS.With a husky you will need a suspension job ,with the berg you wont,so make sure you add this to the equasion
You may reqiure springs as most bikes are setup for around 70 kg mark rider, then add gear and the like depends on your weight riding speed, and how you like your bike to feel
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« Reply #33 on: February 25, 2013, 06,48:57 PM » |
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You may reqiure springs as most bikes are setup for around 70 kg mark rider, then add gear and the like depends on your weight riding speed, and how you like your bike to feel
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Thanks John. I'd come in at around 85Kgs with full riding gear so I'll budget on a mod to the suspension setup. Is that likely to cost a few hundred bucks? |
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« Reply #34 on: February 25, 2013, 07,26:20 PM » |
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Any bike will need the suspension set up for its pilot, if you're old fat and slow buy a berg and ride around on it and enjoy picking up 200 kg's when you drop it, or buy a Husky 310 and get a lean mean fighting machine that weighs the same as a 250 two stroke!!! BERG 390 is fine staight out of the box suspension wise,so no not any bike will need a suspension set up, I have had both a 449 and a 390 and I can tell you the 449 handles like a lame camel compared with the 390, Are you tryin to tell me i,m fat and slow nath  |
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« Reply #35 on: February 25, 2013, 07,35:42 PM » |
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Any bike will need the suspension set up for its pilot, if you're old fat and slow buy a berg and ride around on it and enjoy picking up 200 kg's when you drop it, or buy a Husky 310 and get a lean mean fighting machine that weighs the same as a 250 two stroke!!! BERG 390 is fine staight out of the box suspension wise,so no not any bike will need a suspension set up, I have had both a 449 and a 390 and I can tell you the 449 handles like a lame camel compared with the 390, Are you tryin to tell me i,m fat and slow nath You're not that slow  |
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« Reply #36 on: February 25, 2013, 07,49:29 PM » |
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You may reqiure springs as most bikes are setup for around 70 kg mark rider, then add gear and the like depends on your weight riding speed, and how you like your bike to feel
John T
Thanks John. I'd come in at around 85Kgs with full riding gear so I'll budget on a mod to the suspension setup. Is that likely to cost a few hundred bucks? Just a quick note on suspension A suspension job is only required after you have tried all the adjustments setting and still not happy ( as you pay for them ) and fluids as this is quite easy and cheap to do And the rear shock is not that bad to do either As I am about replace my kids fork oil with a lighter grade as he is only 13 and his bike has a fork setup for jumping so I am not about to run off to the suspension guy just yet plus you may learn somthing in the process John T P.s It still seems funny how a factory can spend millions on bike building to have some guy in a shed fix their suspension issues you would think the fork manufacture would employ these guys |
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« Reply #37 on: February 25, 2013, 08,16:30 PM » |
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All the advice on here about which bike to buy will drive you nuts as everyone has a different opinion, narrow it down to a couple of bikes YOU like, go and see them at the dearler, sit on them and go right over them and ask plenty of questions, then try and get a ride on them, a lot of dealers have demo bikes that you can take for a bit of a ride.
What you like the look of in the shop might feel uncomfortable for you when your actually riding it.
2 stroke or 4 stroke all modern bikes are very good, there has been a few 2t vs 4t comparisons in magazines lately and there is much difference between the two maintenance wise, but it seems to me that two strokes need to be re built more often than 4 strokes.
All bikes have their niggles and will need money spent on them, whatever you get i'm sure you'll be happy with and get heaps of pleasure riding the great trails victoria has to offer
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« Reply #38 on: February 25, 2013, 08,46:44 PM » |
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You may reqiure springs as most bikes are setup for around 70 kg mark rider, then add gear and the like depends on your weight riding speed, and how you like your bike to feel
John T
Thanks John. I'd come in at around 85Kgs with full riding gear so I'll budget on a mod to the suspension setup. Is that likely to cost a few hundred bucks? If you are 85kg with gear and not riding like you stole it it you should be fine. If you find the suspension on the bike you decide on too soft you could put a set springs in it Then see how it feels I think 300.00 would cover it and oil for the forks if you choose 20 or 30 bucks |
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« Reply #39 on: February 25, 2013, 10,25:01 PM » |
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In saying all this, have you looked and the fantastic 2stroke enduro range In truth I haven't looked at the 2 strokes at all. I don't know why as I always rode 2 strokes back in my MX days, but I was forever tearing it down, replacing this, reboring that, they were a lot more maintenance than the 4 strokes. Has that changed? I also like the idea of pulling up at the pump, filling the bike and riding away rather than worrying about ratios, but I could be convinced to look at 2 strokes if there is a good argument for doing so. Have a look at the 2stroke range there extreamly good these days the top needs only rebuilding every 3 to 4 thou, (if you don't take it to the desert) top ends cost next to nothing to do and I'm definitely going to give it a crack rebuilding mine next time. The bottom end is different maybe every 6thou but you may upgrade before then. There is a excellent write up In the last ADBmag of 2stroke vs 4stroke i strongly feel you should read it. As for fuel mixing, it's never bothered me much at all. |
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« Reply #40 on: February 25, 2013, 10,34:57 PM » |
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narrow it down to a couple of bikes YOU like
But I like them ALL 2 stroke or 4 stroke all modern bikes are very good, there has been a few 2t vs 4t comparisons in magazines lately and there is much difference between the two maintenance wise, but it seems to me that two strokes need to be re built more often than 4 strokes.
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« Reply #41 on: February 25, 2013, 10,39:18 PM » |
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I'll definitely dig up that ADB article today and have a read. [/quote] Awsome! You'll be surprised at who comes out on top |
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« Reply #42 on: February 25, 2013, 10,46:33 PM » |
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You also stated that you also want to ride the High Country. With this type of riding you will also need to consider the fuel range of the bike and if there is an after market long range tank available. Not many fuel stations in the high country and carrying fuel on your back can be a pain. It is not unusual to do a 200 km + ride in the high country. If you have a bike by then consider doing the HRC, this will give you a good taste of high country riding.
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« Reply #43 on: February 25, 2013, 11,09:41 PM » |
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« Reply #44 on: February 26, 2013, 12,21:12 AM » |
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Husky 2011 TE310 fuel range is 135klms in the dry with a fat bastard on da back. |
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