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Serge C
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« Reply #30 on: February 10, 2009, 08,56:32 AM »


Hey Robbo,

I hope you don't get extra Clubman points for the most words used in a single post!
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Ian Robinson
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« Reply #31 on: February 10, 2009, 09,02:26 AM »


Hey Robbo,

I hope you don't get extra Clubman points for the most words used in a single post!

I know it was long but people need to be aware that the task of organising volunteers is not just a matter of turning up and offering help, although no doubt we all wish we could do that.
Over the next weeks and months I am sure there will things that AMTRA members can do however because of liability issues we may not be able to offer that help as a club but as individuals in some other way.
And copy and paste works well, do you get clubman points for posts on the web site?
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Paul Smith
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« Reply #32 on: February 10, 2009, 09,16:02 AM »

"Volunteers are not covered unless deemed so and are not entitled to compensation unless specified in an Act of Parliament"

That last blue section looks good to me.


From what I remember Workcover only applies if you are
doing paid work.

Thanks Ian


My father has been a missionary (volunteer) in Peshawar Pakistan for almost 30 years now. Not one workcover claim, not one compo claim.







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Aaron
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« Reply #33 on: February 11, 2009, 01,17:40 AM »

I am against giving away such a large sum of the clubs funds.I beleive it could put us in trouble if we are unable to run the HCR.
However with around 200 members, if every member donates $50 we would have our $10,000 with draining the clubs funds.
We could collect this from general meetings, our 40th party and even rides.

I would also rather use the funds to directly help club members in trouble, such as Willy.

How about a benefit ride?When the time seems right.
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Brad
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« Reply #34 on: February 11, 2009, 04,37:52 AM »

A wise person suggested to me that we meet in the middle and the club gives a dollar or numbers of dollars for each dollar a club member donates up to a certain limit.

Anyway if anything is to happen I assume the process is a motion goes to the committee next week and then the members vote on it the week after unless the donation value is under $1000. In this case the six key positions on the committee have the authourity to make a decision.

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Phil Randall
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« Reply #35 on: February 11, 2009, 07,34:57 AM »

To all,  As I see it, donations are running hot and a considerable amount of money is being donated by a vast range of people. We could add our bit to that, or we could hold our fire for a while and be more specific in what we do.  The donation to the store at Licola comes to mind. Certainly assistance can be given to individuals as we see fit either as a club or as individuals.
My Lions club will be assisting with our own disaster relief fund and followed up by the local clubs as cases needing extra assistance become clear.
Just a thought,
Phil R.
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Phil Randall
dennisd
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« Reply #36 on: February 11, 2009, 10,10:10 AM »

That is very sound logic Phil. I agree with your thoughts. Let's hold off a little while so that we can best direct whatever efforts we can provide. This could like Aaron suggests with a benefit ride (actually a great idea)or helping members directly impacted. I don't know now, but in time it will become cleared exactly what would be best for the club to do.

Dennis Dorman
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Brad
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« Reply #37 on: February 11, 2009, 09,00:33 PM »

Tomorrow (Friday) if you shop at Coles "Coles will donate Friday's profits to the VIC Bushfire Appeal"
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sjkermode
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« Reply #38 on: February 11, 2009, 09,17:32 PM »

Just an ad hoc suggestion along the benefit ride idea. Why don't we start a fundraising drive once we can all get back out for rides along the lines of that everyone donates $2-$5 for each ride they go on for the next 3-6mths (depending when we can get back out there) with all proceeds going to the charity of choice.  Sort of a bit like how many businesses etc are donating a day's profits and some company's are offering their tradespeople for a days work etc. 

In this way we can actively promote the club to get more people out on rides, we can show the DSE we want to do it for the benefit of the community and the more people that go the more that will be raised. 
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Serge C
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« Reply #39 on: February 12, 2009, 06,25:34 AM »


I spoke with a mate of mine who is the Vice Grand Poobah of V5 (that's Lion's Club talk, Phil will understand).  He is in charge of the Marysville, Kinglake, Toolangi etc. area, with regard to support and assistance, both monetary and physical.  I told him that AMTRA was keen to get involved and help out.  He is having a meeting with his fellow water-buffalo's (?) on Sunday, and may well call on us to organize a group of workers to do something under the guidence of the Lion's Club.

He also said that if we wanted to make a donation through the Lion's Club, he could guarantee that 100% on our donation would go to the fund, without any misc admin costs.

That's all I have for now, more details as they come to hand.

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Peter E
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« Reply #40 on: February 12, 2009, 08,27:17 AM »

before everybody gets too bound up in organising a ride to raise money for the bush fire appeal.
my question is where?
just about all riding areas to the north and east of the state have been affected in some way, the amount of work needed to reopen tracks in these areas is mind boggling and would not be a high priority given the amount of human suffering that has occurred in these areas.
i would think the track network would not be available for nearly 12 months at least when you include the normal closure period.
the wombat or the cobaws whilst good riding areas would be hard pressed to cope with a large group of riders given that these areas are heavily used now.
so where?
my suggestion would be forget the ride, agree on an amount and donate the money and seek volunteers from members to assist wherever possible.
i have contacted the government volunteer hotline seeking info on volunteering either as a person or organisation so whatever is recieved could assist and inform and with serges inquiries this matter can be resolved.
on another note a number of former members who live in the steels creek area and the mount disappointment area these being brian and kathy andrews and geoff rowden houses have not been damaged, willy grahams house at flowerdale has survived also. duncan stewarts house at kinglake was not so lucky.
peter ellard

 
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peter ellard
Ian Robinson
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« Reply #41 on: February 12, 2009, 07,48:35 PM »

I had a call from Alex Peacock last night. Alex suggested that if we were to donate money we may consider donating to the local Lions and Rotary clubs where the money can be distributed fairly to those in need. Alex said that after seven years of drought many country people are struggling, not just the bush fire victims.
Just a thought that can be added to the discussion that will take place on a committee and club level.

Ian
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Phil Randall
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« Reply #42 on: February 12, 2009, 10,15:17 PM »

To all,
  The Lions organisations are swinging into gear and some of the first of many working bees are scheduled for this weekend.  The Heathmont Lions group, of which I am a member is organising to replace fences in the Mayysville area to stop stock roaming on the road etc. Fencing material has been arranged and Stock food has been organised. 
There is a lot of things to be done and anyone wishing to be involved has an opportunity this weekend. One of the Lions District Govenors house is still standing on the Marysville to Buxton Road and will be used as a base for meals and sleeping. So roughly speaking it is a swag and esky weekend for anyone wishing to be involved.
As the Black spur is still closed, I think, access will be via Yea, I think. It will be an expect the unexpected weekend!!!.
All for now,  anyone who wishes to be involved please call me on 0408 370 764.
Phil R.
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Phil Randall
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« Reply #43 on: February 16, 2009, 09,44:17 PM »

To all,  First of all I would like to thank Matt Richmond and Mark Clarke for giving up their time over the weekend to assist in recovery work.  We managed to get the water operating again at the house and spent a lot of time remaking fences. Marysville is still locked down, Narbathong is almost gone, though the Pub and caravanpark/servo were missed completely. The road up from Narby to Buxton is totally devastated, there were a lot more houses than can be seen from the road and only about 2 are left, and the same for the Buxton to M'ville road. The servo/diner at the south end of Buxton has gone, but the rest of the town is ok.
In every disaster there is a glimmer of hope, the golf course and buildings, the caravan park and the museum, complete with vintage cars, appear to be ok, but the cake shop does not look so well from the inside, so I am told.
All for now,
Phil R. 
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Phil Randall
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